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president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n., giving veto power to the u.n., and meanwhile, 30,000 syrians are dead. biden: he never answered the question. ryan: we would not be going to the u.n.. biden: you don't go through the u.n.. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid swells -- as well as other aid and training are getting to the forces that the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside the syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page, nato as well as our arab allies, in terms of trying to get a settlemen
president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n.,...
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regional war when assad falls. >> congressman ryan? >> nobody is proposing to send troops to syria, american troops. now, let me say it this way. how would we do things differently? we wouldn't refer to bashar assad as a reformer when he's killing his own civilians with his russian-provided weapons.
regional war when assad falls. >> congressman ryan? >> nobody is proposing to send troops to syria, american troops. now, let me say it this way. how would we do things differently? we wouldn't refer to bashar assad as a reformer when he's killing his own civilians with his russian-provided weapons.
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we-- we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. d by the way,if wad the forces agreement that the vice president said we bet his vice president see on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that as well, again. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? >> worldwide? >> what is in the national interests of american the people. >> how about humanitarian interest. >> it has got nobody the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances but putting american troops on the ground, that's t to be within the national security interests of the american people. >> i want to-- we're almost out of time here. >> that means things like em bargou
we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we-- we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. d by the way,if wad the forces agreement that the vice president said we bet his vice president see on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that...
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then president obama saidba assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, the freedom fighters, working with our allies, the turks and the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with, working through our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to try to come up with an agreement to the u.n. that, bought assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n. and meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice, he never answers the question -- >> no, we would not be going through the u.n. i. you don't go through the u.d n. we are in the process now and have been for months, in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks,
then president obama saidba assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, the freedom fighters, working with our allies, the turks and the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with, working through our allies. but, no, we waited...
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he says assad gets angry when reporters sneak into syria. and he demands they get caught and brought to him so he can kill them. >>> up next, an historic free fall from the edge of space. it has now been aborted. so what happens next? stand by. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way quicken loans is
he says assad gets angry when reporters sneak into syria. and he demands they get caught and brought to him so he can kill them. >>> up next, an historic free fall from the edge of space. it has now been aborted. so what happens next? stand by. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voide for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion.
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voide for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own country? >> in its own country and it doesn't want to see sunni political excitement built to its which could resonate to russia. the russias are looking at turkey's piftd and turkey has come back closer to the united states and they're not krtable with that because they saw nato and turkey and the united states get together and take out qaddafi and they don't want that to happen again to another ally. last but not least this is also putin's primal fear that if he sets up a precedent of supporting an uprising and the international community to back that uprising, th
>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own...
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after international pressure mounted, then president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people. and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on, the more... people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with our allirks the turk, the saudis, had we had a better plan, working through our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to try to come up with an agreement to the u.n., that bought assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the numentd u.n. and meanwhile, 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice, he never answers the question -- >> no, we would not be going through the u.n. i. you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months nmaking sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks, the injuredanians and the s
after international pressure mounted, then president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people. and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on, the more... people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with our allirks the turk, the saudis, had we had a better plan, working through our allies. but, no,...
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assad and don't have in his place chaos or some kind of organization which is as bad as he is or even worse take his place. >> speakg of iran, the israeli prime minister drew a red line as far as its nuclear program is concerned. here is the question. is there any daylight between you and the prime minister? >> there's no daylight between the united states and israel. we have coincident interests. we share values and we're both absolutely committed to prevent iran from having a nuclear weapon. my own test is that iran should not have the capability of producing a nuclear weapon. i think that's the same test that benjamin netanyahu who also aplay. i can't speak for the president in this regard, i think there has to be boundaries that the iranians should not cross. let's also recognize we have a long way to go before military action may be necessary. hopefully it's never necessary. hopefully through extremely tight sanctions as well as diplomatic action we can prevent iran from taking a course which would lead to them crossing that line. >> does prime minister netanyahu spoke of the spr
assad and don't have in his place chaos or some kind of organization which is as bad as he is or even worse take his place. >> speakg of iran, the israeli prime minister drew a red line as far as its nuclear program is concerned. here is the question. is there any daylight between you and the prime minister? >> there's no daylight between the united states and israel. we have coincident interests. we share values and we're both absolutely committed to prevent iran from having a...
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dictators than gamble on the prospects of political islam should be supporting the regime of bashar al assad in syria. for more on this, read my column in "the washington post." there's a link on cnn.com/fareed. and let's get started. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> we will leave it to ores to analyze the ups and downs of the vice-presidential debate. we'll get to the main course. what to make of mitt romney's speech this week, what to make of the arab spring and the candidates' responses to it. joining me now are bill keller, temperature former executive erd tore of "new york times" now an op-ed columnist for the baker. diane frn foreign defense stois at aei, brett stevens, "the wall street journal's" jurial and the public policy of the national university of singapore. welcome back to all of you. bill, what did you make of what was billed as romney's major foreign policy address? >> the interesting thing to me was when you strip away the rhett rinne and the high-minded talk about leadership, he's not that different from obama and on a couple of points it seemed to me he moved a l
dictators than gamble on the prospects of political islam should be supporting the regime of bashar al assad in syria. for more on this, read my column in "the washington post." there's a link on cnn.com/fareed. and let's get started. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> we will leave it to ores to analyze the ups and downs of the vice-presidential debate. we'll get to the main course. what to make of mitt romney's speech this week, what to make of the arab spring and...
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obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000 assyrians -- syrians are dead. >> what will you do differently? you never answer the question. you don't go through the un. that we have been in the process and have been for months to make sure that humanitarian aid as well as other aid is getting to the forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jordanians believe, the free forces inside of syria. that is under way. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as the arab allies in terms of trying to get a settle. that was their idea. we are the ones that said enough.
obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000...
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and i gave a, you can defeat assad tank and helicopters by supplying arms to this group of rebels. that's not realistic. if you're going to talk about leadership and america's leadership in the world, you have to admit that syria's defenses are far superior to any of the countries that we've seen toppled so easily, such as libya, for instance. so you can't just assert leadership by saying, i'm going to be your leader. you have to say what you're going to do and how it's going to be different from the leader that you are criticizing. that's what we didn't see from syria or today in what he said about iran either because he talks tough on iran, not clear how anything, anything he's proposed would be anything different. >> and he does this, brian, facing a president who has a strong record on foreign policy. let me show you what the president has been saying. >> four years ago i told you i would end the war in iraq and we did. i said i'd end the war in afghanistan. we are. i said we'd focus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11 and today osama bin laden is no more. >> in two
and i gave a, you can defeat assad tank and helicopters by supplying arms to this group of rebels. that's not realistic. if you're going to talk about leadership and america's leadership in the world, you have to admit that syria's defenses are far superior to any of the countries that we've seen toppled so easily, such as libya, for instance. so you can't just assert leadership by saying, i'm going to be your leader. you have to say what you're going to do and how it's going to be different...
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hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about our marathon times, we lie about gm motors and the factory, and then we lie about what the secretary of state says. that's just the norm now, is it? >> and we clech our pearls about how mean and nasty the democrats are. we just won't let us say what we want to say that isn't true. when you lose a debate you sort of clutch for anything and grab for anything. the fact that almost everyone who is speaking up for the romney/ryan ticket today is focused on syria. syria, the one issue that was discussed last night that 99.9% of voters are not voting on in this elec
hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about...
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the assad regime is doing everything it can to try to crush this rebellion. the last thing they need is a war on their borders. but when you have mortar shells falling 150 meets or 150 yards into someone's territory, it can -- this was a few days ago, you haven't had deaths in recent days, but you can easily see a situation where this would spiral out of control. so, you know, arming the rebels coming from mitt romney, i don't know. is this something that is going to happen rebels in a substantial way inside the country? this is still talk. you're still talking about vetting groups. we're months away from identifying groups that will be armed in a sort of -- in a way that can help them fight against the regime that is extremely militaryized. >> what about syria? you have sources in syria and one line that stood out to me, mitt romney quoting a syrian woman saying we'll never forget that you forget us, but that the u.s. is forgetting syria. what do syrians tell you? >> what syrians say, those who are on the side of the anti-regime movement, and those who suppo
the assad regime is doing everything it can to try to crush this rebellion. the last thing they need is a war on their borders. but when you have mortar shells falling 150 meets or 150 yards into someone's territory, it can -- this was a few days ago, you haven't had deaths in recent days, but you can easily see a situation where this would spiral out of control. so, you know, arming the rebels coming from mitt romney, i don't know. is this something that is going to happen rebels in a...
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iran is sending arms to assad because his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines. it's essential we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue a real successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014. president obama would have you believe anyone who disagrees with the decisions in afghanistan is arguing for endless war. but the route to war and to potential attacks at home is a politically timed retreat that abandons the afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11. i will look at conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of military commanders and affirm that my duty isn't to protect my political prospects but to protect the security of the nation. finally, i will recommit america to the goal of a prosperous palesti
iran is sending arms to assad because his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines. it's essential we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue a real successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014....
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iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the national security interest of the american people. that means things like embargoes and sanctions, those are the things that don't put the troops on the ground. but if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our national security interest. >> i want to return home for these last few questions. this debate is indeed historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion? please talk about how you came to that decision. talk about
iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the...
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then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we gave russia veto power. and meanwhile about 30,000 sirrians are dead. >> biden: what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question -- >> ryan: no we would not be going through the un -- >> biden: you don't go through the un. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help humanitarian aide and other aide and training that we believe, the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside of syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page. nato as well as o
then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we...
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in syria he dealt with hafez assad and in israel he dealt with golda meyer who has such a majority in the israeli parliament no one had ever heard of the likud my noorty policy. so kissinger had to deliver three people. flash forward, you're hillary clintonow. you ha to negotiate with a muslim brotherhood president of egypt who is in a -- just new to the job in a very frail and weak situation. you've got a revolution in syria, there's basically no one to deal with. you could deal with haefz but he can't deliver six blocks beyond his palace and in israel you have a minority government led baby by netanyahu that is an extreme government. it's michele bachmann 20 times over. so it's not exactly an environment conducive for great heroic foreign policy. mam tell your dughters not to grow up to secretaries of state, not now. you want to be secretary of education, not secretary of state. >> rose: (laughs) so what ought to be the foreign policy debate in this campaign? >> well, i tell you what i've been focused on and i think it's about making our own country strong, charlie. making our own c
in syria he dealt with hafez assad and in israel he dealt with golda meyer who has such a majority in the israeli parliament no one had ever heard of the likud my noorty policy. so kissinger had to deliver three people. flash forward, you're hillary clintonow. you ha to negotiate with a muslim brotherhood president of egypt who is in a -- just new to the job in a very frail and weak situation. you've got a revolution in syria, there's basically no one to deal with. you could deal with haefz but...
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we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mularkemularkey. not a single thing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. an this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend is talking about he
we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due...